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The Conservative Kinkster

by: Ryan Goodland

Sun Mar 05, 2006 at 22:36:53 PM CST


(Please don't waste your primary vote & state convention chances on signing Kinky's petition if you care about helping either Democrat get elected Governor. - promoted by Karl-Thomas Musselman)

I was talking to some friends tonight about Bob Gammage and the primary on Tuesday. These friends are young, urban artsy types and are pretty excited about Kinky Friedman; one even said he was skipping the primary specifically to sign Kinky's petition. He's probably not alone; drive around Montrose in Houston and you're bound to see more than a few cars with those "Kinky Friedman: Why the Hell Not?" bumper stickers.

It's disconcerting to see so many smart people out there fall for Friedman as if he's the cool, progressive alternative to whoever the Democratic nominee will be. Following his campaign in the news, the more I learn about Kinky Friedman, the more conservative I realize he is. So rather than chastise him for being a potential spoiler, here are some on-the-merits reasons why you shouldn't skip the primary to sign Friedman's petition. Or vote for him at all.

1. Kinky Friedman wants to tear down the wall of separation between church and state. He supports school prayer and posting the Ten Commandments in Texas classrooms.

2. Kinky Friedman wants to put up a wall between Texas and Mexico. In a March 2005 appearance on "The No-Spin Zone," Friedman said, "Good fences make good neighbors, and, Mr. Fox, help us build that fence."

3. Kinky Friedman won't say if he supports a woman's right to choose. When asked, Friedman dodged a question about his position on abortion. Incidentally, Texas is one nineteen states with a legislature that would be likely to ban abortion in the event that Roe v. Wade were overturned.

4. Kinky Friedman has promised to root out cronyism...and appoint his biggest campaign contributor Secretary of State. No one should be appointed to a position just because he "gave the most money," according to Kinky. Except if you donate $600,000 to Kinky's campaign. Then you get to be Secretary of State.

5. Kinky Friedman didn't take the time to vote for the equal rights of the GLBT community. As Karl-Thomas has pointed out, Kinky didn't bother to vote on Proposition 2 last year, which amended the Texas Constitution to outlaw same-sex marriages.

6. Kinky Friedman did take the time to vote for George W. Bush. That kind of voting record sort of speaks for itself.

7. Kinky Friedman talks out of both sides of his mouth on public education. Friedman says he wants a teacher pay raise, but at the same time he wants to spend the state's 4.3 billion dollar surplus this year on a tax rebate.

8. Kinky Friedman is a Republican. In 1986, Friedman ran for Kerrville JP as  a Republican.

If Carole Strayhorn is Rick Perry in a skirt, as Bob Gammage has said, then Kinky Friedman is Rick Perry with a cigar. Why anyone would skip the primary for this guy is beyond me.

UPDATE: Laura Stromberg with the Kinky Friedman campaign sent me an e-mail directing me to this DMN story which quotes Friedman on choice:

Should Roe vs. Wade be overturned? [...]

Friedman: No. ... I'm running for governor, not God.

Why he didn't give that answer when the San Antonio Express News asked him about his stance is another question altogether.

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Hell yeah! (0.00 / 0)
I've been screaming my head off about this for a long time now. Most of the comments I got along these lines weren't very promising.  I hope you have more luck.


They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
by: Damon McCullar @ Sun Mar 05, 2006 at 22:58:24 PM CST
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Agreed (0.00 / 0)
I know Damon. The math was different a year ago this time, and I know I argued then that Kinky might be helpful on the ballot. But that was before Carol jumped Parties. Now, things have changed, and it's just depressing.


I can help you ActBlue.
by: Karl-Thomas Musselman @ Sun Mar 05, 2006 at 23:04:31 PM CST
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double agreed (0.00 / 0)
thanks for promoting this post.  it pretty much says it all.  all those damned hippies and hipsters who are going to waste their vote on kinky are really pissing me off.


Fudd's first law of opposition: Push something hard enough and it will fall over.
by: annatopia @ Sun Mar 05, 2006 at 23:06:07 PM CST
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Yeah (0.00 / 0)
I had to respond on this Kos thread.  I've convinced 2 people so far in my circle of friends to come off their petition high and vote. Sometimes Austin white progressives (or whiny liberals) really tick me off.


I can help you ActBlue.
by: Karl-Thomas Musselman @ Sun Mar 05, 2006 at 23:20:36 PM CST
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it's so difficult (0.00 / 0)
pretty much ALL my friends are hardcore progressives who are thinking of wasting their votes on kinky. my husband has PAGAN friends for god's sakes that are nuts over the man! 

i just don't know what to do to convince them how utterly wrong it is.  this post goes a long way towards pointing out the true evils of wasting a vote on him.  sorry but i prefer my government officials to actually respect and understand the constitution.  and voting for bush?  well FUCK THAT!  that should be a BIG RED FLAG for every progressive in texas.


Fudd's first law of opposition: Push something hard enough and it will fall over.

by: annatopia @ Sun Mar 05, 2006 at 23:23:45 PM CST
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Triple Agreed (0.00 / 0)
I have just posted the eight points and a link to this thread here on the front page of http://www.democrats.com/ in the post "To my friends in Texas".

Hey, why does the Porridge Bird lay it's eggs in the air?

Testicle's Deviant to Fudd's Law: It comes in, it must go out.

by: EnderW @ Tue Mar 07, 2006 at 03:16:40 AM CST
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Amen! (3.00 / 2)
I am going around posting a link to this everywhere I can.  Talk about a fraud!  I do not know why people cannot get it through their thick heads that just because he has a "thumb your nose" attitude does NOT qualify him as either a progressive or as someone who is qualified for the job.  It scares me the way people are so unwilling to look beyond the hype and or to look beyond their first impressions. 

And to add to the general irrelevancies, as a connoisseur, I can tell you that even the mysteries he has written are mediocre.

by: SBerta @ Sun Mar 05, 2006 at 23:37:05 PM CST
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kinky (5.00 / 1)
people like the notion of a candidate like kinky but the bottom line is that his stance on the issues are NOT progressive. Some of them are to the right of Perry, in fact.

by: david @ Sun Mar 05, 2006 at 23:46:52 PM CST
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Missing the biggest one... (4.00 / 2)
Where Kinky told folks that, instead of the death penalty, we should force prisoners to listen to a black person talk to himself. Kinky claimed it was a joke - when asked about it in an interview - only to repeat the joke later on in the same interview.


Now, a very great man once said that some people rob you with a fountain pen.
by: Phillip Martin @ Mon Mar 06, 2006 at 01:03:36 AM CST
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Wow... (0.00 / 0)
Jesus, that's awful. Do you happen to have a link to that interview?

by: Ryan Goodland @ Mon Mar 06, 2006 at 07:07:49 AM CST
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Reality (3.00 / 3)
The reality is that quite a few Democrats supported Kinky Friedman because he represents someone who is not part of a party system or tied into special interests.  Both Chris Bell and Rick Perry are.  In fact, some of the same supporters can be found on both of their campaign finance reports.

When Bob Gammage announced, they decided to remain within the party and support him instead.  Because of the same reasons with regard to both the party system and the special interests.

Many have pointed to the fact that Gammage has not been "politically active" for some time which in fact is to his favor. Quite a few have not been "politically active" for a variety of reasons. The current and previous chairs of the Texas Democratic Party are one reason why.  That is reality. 

Many of these Gammage supporters may have believed the ongoing "polls" indicating that Chris Bell will win on Tuesday and so have decided not to vote and sign the petitions instead. That is reality.

They may disagree with many of Kinky's positions.  But they are not going to blindly support the "status quo" any longer simply out of "party loyalty."

I hope those who have decided not to vote on Tuesday because they believe it doesn't matter will go ahead and vote on Tuesday and vote for Bob Gammage.

Their vote does count and the future of the Texas Democratic Party depends on their votes. That is reality as well.



by: Baby Snooks @ Mon Mar 06, 2006 at 02:24:31 AM CST
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Kinky has a great scam - for Kinky! (0.00 / 0)
He is a showman, and with his little "bread and circuses" run no matter what happens, he wins - he'll sell more CD's and books - I think his credo runs closest to P.T. Barnum, "There's a sucker born every minute."

by: energyecon @ Mon Mar 06, 2006 at 07:50:38 AM CST
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Kinky may be a self-promoter (0.00 / 0)
but he's not selfish.

Kinky cares about dogs more than people, and his Utopia Rescue Ranch captures the essence of what Kinky is all about.  Every time you buy Kinky salsa, you're helping stray dogs.  As soon as I can build a fence around my yard, I'm going out to Kerrville to adopt one of the rescued dogs.

You're right that Kinky has masterminded a great scam to sell more books and CD's, but it's not for Kinky's personal benefit.  While Ryan effectively summarized that Kinky-the-candidate has become a right-wing redneck, Kinky-the-person still has a soft heart for the things he cares about.  From my earlier experience supporting Kinky, I found that his most passionate volunteers were dog lovers.  As a dog person myself, I always thought that was pretty cool.

by: Ian @ Mon Mar 06, 2006 at 11:45:26 AM CST
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Thanks for the personal observation (5.00 / 1)
Whatever his political views, sounds like at least a ventricle o' gold if not a whole heart o' gold in there!

by: energyecon @ Mon Mar 06, 2006 at 11:48:34 AM CST
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that's.... (5.00 / 1)
...the only thing i like about him: his obvious love for our animal friends.  i do wish his no declawing proposition would get some traction, because it's a cruel and imhumane practise.  but other than that, i really couldn't say anything positive about his political stances.


Fudd's first law of opposition: Push something hard enough and it will fall over.
by: annatopia @ Mon Mar 06, 2006 at 11:58:59 AM CST
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Yeah, it's too bad (0.00 / 0)
Kinky's got a big heart, and he could have become a true populist hero.  But I could never get my own mom to support Kinky, so I finally realized it was a lost cause.

If he somehow brings in a million new voters, then all bets are off.  But I just  don't see that happening because we don't have same-day voter registration in Texas.  We'll defintely have record turnout in 2006, but it probably won't be enough to push the Kinkster over the finish line.

Another one of Kinky's great ideas was the Texas Peace Corps, and I hope that idea survives Kinky's candidacy.  Whoever wins the Governor's Mansion should appoint Kinky the goodwill ambassador of the Texas Peace Corps so that we can show the world that Texas is actually a friendly place. 

by: Ian @ Mon Mar 06, 2006 at 12:25:03 PM CST
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Tie it in with emergency preparedness (5.00 / 1)
As in, hurricane season is here in June!

I think the country and the world got something to think about how big the Texas heart can be with the way our state (and Houston in particular!) opened its arms for the folks displaced by Katrina.

But that impression does get tarnished by the DeLay, Enron, & Bush to name a few...

by: energyecon @ Mon Mar 06, 2006 at 12:43:56 PM CST
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If Kinky loves dogs more than peopls (0.00 / 0)
Maybe he should run for Grand Vizier of Canines instead of this idiotic governor's race of his.


Treaty Oak speaks for me!
by: Dave In A Cave @ Mon Mar 06, 2006 at 13:06:19 PM CST
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KINKY SUPPORTS TURNING TO GAMMAGE (0.00 / 0)
  My son & I were driving down the highway and as we passed vehicles, my son held up a 12"x18" Gammage for Governor sign in his window.  We got thumbs up from everyone.  The best one was the person with a bumper sticker that read "He's not Kinky, he's my Governor", we got a wave and a thumbs up from the man's wife!!  I think the people of Texas need someone seriously committed to change and that will stand up for what people need. Not a comedy character, that just likes to draw attention to himself to be in the lime light. I mean come on Kinky is "Pro Life & Pro Football all in one sentence".  Gammage will stand up for all Texans!!  Make your vote count!!

by: jones @ Mon Mar 06, 2006 at 08:03:45 AM CST
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Independent POV (5.00 / 1)
As a Centrist I don't find the D or R candidates compelling.
I would like to hear a platform that reconciles the left and right wing.
I am more likely to hear that from an independent Strayhorn.


Austn Centrist
by: pjsilver @ Mon Mar 06, 2006 at 08:09:13 AM CST
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I welcome independents (0.00 / 0)
I've never been a huge fan of our 2-party system, and I welcome independents who want to spice things up.  Not all Democrats are saints, and not all Republicans are evil.  (Charlie Geren is my new hero for promising "not to whore for Leininger".)

While it's obvious that Kinky has said some pretty wild things, I'm still glad he tossed his cowboy hat in the ring.  Even though he won't win, Kinky just might increase voter turnout enough that we'll pull off enough down ballot upsets to toss Craddick to the curb. 

While Strayhorn certainly isn't my first choice, I could support her if she proved to be the only one who could provide a realistic opportunity to dethrone Perry. 

It'd be pretty sweet to take out Perry and Craddick in one swoop.  Probably won't happen, but anything's possible in 2006 because independents will be voting in record numbers.

by: Ian @ Mon Mar 06, 2006 at 11:13:01 AM CST
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Way back when (5.00 / 1)
To his credit Kinky started early.  I thought he was a funny guy, and that it would be never ending hilarity to have him as a governor.  Like a lot of Kinky supporters I bought that he was an 'outsider' that could do a better job than an 'insider,' and that somehow, because he talked about it so much, he would form this great, progressive plan for education.  The biodiesel idea I knew no one would ever go for.  As Bell and Gammage came into focus, though, I took a better look at Kinky-- I like some of his music and books, but there does seem to be some sexism there, however playful.  I know he has run as a Republican before-- party flipping has never really bothered me, but his continued support for Bush made me wonder about his motivations.  It seemed like he put up a progressive front at times, but his drive came from more conservative wells.  So, while I'm going to secretly enjoy seeing what Kinky does next, a better candidate got my vote.

by: Ryanlindly @ Mon Mar 06, 2006 at 08:36:37 AM CST
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Kinky is selling Kinky (3.00 / 1)
And it really goes no deeper than that.

He realized a bunch of people would be looking in one direction and he hurried around to stand in front of them.

With no discernible political creed other than relentless self-promotion and no voter base to which he must be responsible, he is more likely to be susceptible to bribery and blandishment, not less.

What a bad joke he's playing on all of us.

by: aerialist @ Mon Mar 06, 2006 at 11:48:00 AM CST
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more likely to be bribed? (0.00 / 0)
So he's got no big industry connections. His big political platforms are anti-death penalty and pro-gay marriage. He's friends with George Bush AND Bill Clinton.

I'm not sure I follow you. Please elaborate.

by: dogalmity @ Tue Mar 07, 2006 at 00:44:08 AM CST
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Keep Preaching, Ryan (3.00 / 2)
I'm becoming increasingly concerned that a lot of folks don't know these thing about Kinky.  While I enjoy his entertainment, I don't believe I could tolerate his "governance."

Just today in a blog piece, Dallas political writer Carolyn Barta recounted a lunch with a number of her Democratic buddies who said they were saving themselves for Kinky.

I wish you and others would go to her post and put your info in a comment.  It would be more credible coming from you than from me, since I'm always going off on everybody on that blog.  It's at:

http://www.dallasblog.com/

And then look for the sad headline:  "Look for Low Turnout Tuesday"

Above all, keep preaching.

by: Ken Molberg @ Mon Mar 06, 2006 at 15:21:20 PM CST
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Kinky can ride back out on the horse he rode in on (3.00 / 1)
I'm glad Kinky has a heart for dogs and animals.  He's not running for animal control director though, he's trying to run for Governor.  He doesn't have the experience or the real desire to fix the Texas sized problems this state has.  If people you know, think Jesse Ventura did a fabulous jon in MN or that Arnold "the gropinator" Schwarzenegger is still loved and adored by CA.  Make them think again.  I think this state is in serious trouble and the Kinky solution is not the answer folks.


The Political Legacy of Jesse Ventura
...he ends a term that saw one of the most dramatic four-year shifts in Minnesota's financial picture. Ventura inherited a $4 billion surplus, and leaves office with the state facing a $4.5 billion deficit.

The gropinator's legacy is still being written, but the fact that every one of all the propositions he supported in Nov '05 failed has to tell you CA has gotten over its crush on Arnold.


All eight ballot initiatives fail
Governor had backed four of the measures

All eight statewide ballot measures on Tuesday's ballot have gone down in defeat.
(snip)
The special election was called by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who supported four of the eight initiatives -- Propositions 74, 75, 76 and 77.

No thanks Kinky, If you love this state get out of the race now.  Your sales on merchandise have gone up enough.

by: sonia @ Mon Mar 06, 2006 at 16:39:02 PM CST
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Ventura was a terrible governor (0.00 / 0)
and I don't plan to vote for Kinky.  While Kinky jokes, "How hard could it be", governing Texas is actually quite difficult.  He simply doesn't have the patience to dive into policy details.  And since Kinky admits that he would only serve one term, partisan legislators could simply outlast Kinky (as they did with Ventura).

But in general, I do welcome independents and third parties on the ballot.  I favor anything that will  increase voter turnout for down ballot races.

by: Ian @ Mon Mar 06, 2006 at 23:25:52 PM CST
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Party Independence (1.00 / 2)
I had almost decided to vote in the Democratic primary in order to cast a ballot for Gammage -- Bell sent out two air-head zero-information mailers on the weekend that seriously annoyed me -- but then I got Glen Maxey's announcement.  Glen's a great organizer, but he will set the party back a decade, which is saying a lot.  I want no part of it.  I will sit this primary out (first time in a decade to do so) and sign Strayhorn's petition.  Maxey is Marginal at a time when we need Mainstream.

by: Wanderer @ Mon Mar 06, 2006 at 16:41:05 PM CST
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Wow (2.33 / 3)
That makes so little sense. Don't vote, so you can't become a delegate, so you can't have a say either way.

As a supporter of both Gammage and Maxey, I don't know what to really say. Taking yourself out of the equation (even to vote against people) forfeits your right to whine when either of them win their elections.


I can help you ActBlue.

by: Karl-Thomas Musselman @ Mon Mar 06, 2006 at 16:46:30 PM CST
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You really don't know what to say (0.00 / 0)
I do not mean to sound severe, but you really do have a narrow view of the political landscape if you think that everyone must fit into your personal pigeonhole, or otherwise be considered unengaged.

I will simply be like most unaffiliated voters who wait for the general election to make a selection.  Convention participation is a joke, as anyone with common sense (i.e., not a partisan) knows.  The party will do what it wants regardless of the convention outcomes.  Conventions are just political social outings with about as much content as a football game.  I've been going to them off and on since 1972, so I know of whence I speak.  They get worse and worse every time around.

Furthermore, not voting in a primary gives me the right to sign a petition for ballot access:  a MUCH more meaningful way of making a statement than passing a series of stale resolutions that no Democratic elected official will actually enact.  Getting more candidates on the ballot is also a meaningful form of democratic participation.  How many Democrats today would make it to the ballot if they had to follow the same stringent petition requirements that past Democratic Legislatures have imposed?  Not many.

by: Wanderer @ Tue Mar 07, 2006 at 16:13:47 PM CST
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But your logic escapes me (0.00 / 0)
1) Wanderer plans to vote for Gammage
2) Maxey, who has nothing to do with Gammage except being a Texas Democrat,  announces for Chair
3) Wanderer doesn't vote for Gammage

Huh?

by: George @ Tue Mar 07, 2006 at 18:48:22 PM CST
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Wanderer was simply reminded that the TDP (0.00 / 0)
Has nothing in common with him, or any other average voters, that's all.  And shows no clue of how to accomplish it.  It is not a matter of Wanderer saying no to Gammage, but to the entire Texas Democratic Party.  Yesterday was  Independence Day -- party-free!  Call him a Recovering Democrat.  Dirty secret:  he keeps voting for mostly Democrats, even though the search is for rationally independent voices.

by: Wanderer @ Wed Mar 08, 2006 at 11:19:42 AM CST
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Mostly Very Good reasons to Get Kinky in the Governors Seat (1.00 / 1)
1. Kinky Friedman wants to tear down the wall of separation between church and state. He supports school prayer and posting the Ten Commandments in Texas classrooms.

No wall of separation in the Constitution only in a letter written by Thomas jefferson to a group of Baptist ministers when he was not even President. Wake Up this country was built on our belief in God and as you move steadily away from that you only tear the fabric of this once great nation further apart.

2. Kinky Friedman wants to put up a wall between Texas and Mexico. In a March 2005 appearance on "The No-Spin Zone," Friedman said, "Good fences make good neighbors, and, Mr. Fox, help us build that fence."

Not a bad idea considering the free flow of illigal aliens including non hispanic possible terrorist's and drug trafficers not to mention the fact that illegals take jobs that young people used to use as an entry level stepping stones to learn work ethic but now spoiled Americans who would rather be on the public dole than do an honest days work refuse to do.

3. Kinky Friedman won't say if he supports a woman's right to choose. When asked, Friedman dodged a question about his position on abortion. Incidentally, Texas is one nineteen states with a legislature that would be likely to ban abortion in the event that Roe v. Wade were overturned.

Abortion should be only in the case of rape, incest, or if the mothers life is in health jeopardy due to pregnancy. Abortion as birth control is murder and should be prosecuted as such. This is 2006 in this age of information and technology there is no place for those so stupid as to not know what causes pregnancy if they are out there doing it.

4. Kinky Friedman has promised to root out cronyism...and appoint his biggest campaign contributor Secretary of State. No one should be appointed to a position just because he "gave the most money," according to Kinky. Except if you donate $600,000 to Kinky's campaign. Then you get to be Secretary of State.

On this issue I can only say Status Quo.
not so different from any polititian

5. Kinky Friedman didn't take the time to vote for the equal rights of the GLBT community. As Karl-Thomas has pointed out, Kinky didn't bother to vote on Proposition 2 last year, which amended the Texas Constitution to outlaw same-sex marriages.

In this country you have the right to vote or not to vote. he exercised his right. It still came out the right way.

6. Kinky Friedman did take the time to vote for George W. Bush. That kind of voting record sort of speaks for itself.

See above message

7. Kinky Friedman talks out of both sides of his mouth on public education. Friedman says he wants a teacher pay raise, but at the same time he wants to spend the state's 4.3 billion dollar surplus this year on a tax rebate.

It's all about how you budget.

8. Kinky Friedman is a Republican. In 1986, Friedman ran for Kerrville JP as  a Republican.

Just makes him more endearing to me.
"If not us, Who? If not now, When"
WWRD(What would Reagan Do)



by: Texaskingfish @ Wed Mar 08, 2006 at 10:07:49 AM CST
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Wow... (0.00 / 0)
Nice to hear the excuses...

To recap, it's OK for:

1) Kinky to go against Supreme Court rulings;
2) Kinky to promote an immigration idea that is impossible to afford;
3) Kinky to not have a stance on abortion, b/c unless you're raped, you're an idiot for getting pregnant;
4) Kinky to say one thing and do another;
5) Kinky to not vote, because he's exercising his right to not be a part of the process;
6) Same as no. 5;
7) Kinky to have no real plan on education beyond talking points;
8) Kinky to, apparently, be the new Reagan? (still not sure about this one)

Thanks!




Now, a very great man once said that some people rob you with a fountain pen.

by: Phillip Martin @ Wed Mar 08, 2006 at 10:38:06 AM CST
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Sounds like Kinky (0.00 / 0)
Learned his politics from Democrats and Republicans.  He dances exactly the same steps!

by: Wanderer @ Wed Mar 08, 2006 at 11:20:58 AM CST
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Re; To recap, it's OK for: (0.00 / 0)
1) Kinky to go against Supreme Court rulings;
The Supreme Court is a tool to interpret the laws of the Constitution as it is written not to re-write it. thank God, Yes God that with recent changes it is now no longer based to be a tool for liberals who want to rewrite the American way of life. I fully believe in God as our creator, The Bible as the word of God and the Ten Commandments as Gods Laws. So yes I believe that their place in schools and other public places is not only proper but admirable. I dont see anyone wanting to tear down the Statue of Liberty which is a Peagan Goddess.
You only want to remove the Christian God from public view. I'm sure your views differ when it comes to the recent change in grade school cirriculum for art class and meetings with Moslem leaders so that their children would not only not have to draw but not have to see figures of humans drawn as it goes against their beliefs. This is typical liberal tripe.
I also notice you only adress the issues you think you have a chance of winning.

  2) Kinky to promote an immigration idea that is impossible to afford;

We cant afford to protect our borders but we can afford free schooling, medical treatment(not available to our own citizens)and public dole for anyone who can illegally cross the border(A major slap in the face to those immigrants who have worked so hard to come here through proper channels and to become legal citizens). more of the great liberal welfare state that the liberals want to institute and make me pay for.
"Peace through Strength"

3) Kinky to not have a stance on abortion, b/c unless you're raped, you're an idiot for getting pregnant;

I'm not sure he does not have a stance. He may not be ready to state his stance and it may not be the deciding issue upon which he is or is not elected.
Nor is he required to spout answers upon demand to all who ask.
Once again Abortion as a form of birth control is MURDER. It is a prime example of liberals "I Dont have to take responsibility for my actions" way of thinking. Dont worry about promiscuity or birth control she can just get an abortion later. I have known women who have had abortions and by and large they are scarred emotionally for life if they have any conscience. They may not realize it immediatly but as time passes it comes around to haunt them. Just ask one.
Yes In fact you pretty much are an idiot in this age to have an unintended pregnancy. if you cant walk the walk dont talk the talk.
teach your sons and daughters to take responsibilities for  their actions before they act not how to skirt responsibility for their actions after they make a mistake.

4) Kinky to say one thing and do another;
No polititian has spoken more directly to an issue since the great Huey p. Long
from whom I will give two quotes.

"The only difference I ever found between the Democratic leadership and the Republican leadership is that one of them is skinning you from the ankle up and the other, from the neck down."

"If Fascism comes to America it would be on a program of Americanism."

5) Kinky to not vote, because he's exercising his right to not be a part of the process;

Would you be so quick to judge if he had voted and not voted to your way of thinking. Is America not about freedom.
Freedom means Freedom to do things or not to do things. Once again any point you think you can make to find something you can portray as negative no matter how you have to spin it to make it appear to be of your gain.
liberal Bigotry in it's purest form.

6) Same as no. 5;
Thats Right

7) Kinky to have no real plan on education beyond talking points;

Perry has done nothing. The Democrats have no plan and from local levels all the way up up no viable canidates for virtually any public office you can name. God forbid that we should have to be saddled with another run by Kerry or Hillary.
Once again you want to attack Kinky but have no positive path of action to lead with in any other happenstance.
It's all about negativity with no recourse and no leaders to turn to in the event you succeed. the problem is if you win in we all lose. kinky is no worse than the best the democrats have to offer and could not possibly do less than Perry who is in a close race with Jimmy Carter to see who in history can hold a public office with the least possible forward motion.
maybe you should go down and hug  Hugo Chaves'es neck with Cindy Sheehan who gave her son up at age 7 and now has shown herself to be the idiot she is by marring his memory as that of an American Hero and Patriot who died for his country.
How can an intelligent person, make that so many intelligent people be so blind to what is so obvious.

8) Kinky to, apparently, be the new Reagan? (still not sure about this one)

Lets See;
1.God
2.Prayer
3.Secure Borders
4.Strong Abortion laws that protect the unborn except in the case of rape, incest or Medical harm to the mother.
5. Sanctity of Marriage
6.Freedom in spite of liberal public opinion
7.Patriotism

All good conservative ethics.
I suppose you have a better different set of standards.

The only thing that would make me happier than Kinky as the Governor would be Condeleeza Rice as the first Woman President.



by: Texaskingfish @ Wed Mar 08, 2006 at 13:26:39 PM CST
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Foulard? (0.00 / 0)
Is this Stephen Foulard?

by: Ryan Goodland @ Wed Mar 08, 2006 at 14:05:50 PM CST
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Is this Stephen Foulard? (0.00 / 0)
Yes, this is, and no, that wasn't.

I found this entirely by accident and registered for the sole purpose of allaying your suspicion.

by: Foulard @ Sat Oct 14, 2006 at 14:24:39 PM CDT
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you're a troll EOM (0.00 / 0)



Fudd's first law of opposition: Push something hard enough and it will fall over.
by: annatopia @ Wed Mar 08, 2006 at 11:40:28 AM CST
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Pretty Weak Connections (0.00 / 0)

As far as school prayer, that link is a quote to a blog, not to a news source.  Also he says the kids can pray, which they can already do, there just cannot be prayer led by the school.  I don't have a problem with that.

The border fence, which already exists, appeals to a large part of the Texas population, both democrat and republican.  There should be some of limitation on sneaking across the border.  It's not as difficult to legally enter the US as people make it out to be.  Without the influx of illegal aliens, food prices would rise, but wages would too.

As far as the woman's right to choose, his answer, to me, makes me think it's a non-issue to him.  It is legal and would remain that way.  The link to the pic of states that would outlaw abortion uses current info, like if Rick Perry were still governor.  Also Roe v Wade was a Texas case.  This would be one of the first states to try and turn around regardless.

Cronyism?  Like the democrats aren't guilty of that across the board.  That guy, McCall has been friends with Kinky for over 30 years.

His voting record isn't great, but the vast majority of Americans have the same record, plus there haven't been good candidates in a while. Tony Sanchez? Give me a break.

As far as the teacher pay raise vs. the tax rebate, the budget was already done and there was money left over---accidentally.  If he was there to start with, before the budget was voted on, knowing that there was the extra $4.3 billion, the teachers would get raises.  It's a real stretch for this blogger to say that he wants both.  How come the democrats couldn't find this money to begin with?

As far as running as a Republican, in many smaller counties and towns there are no democrats so there is no way to run, unless you are on the Republican ticket. 

by: birdsell @ Wed Mar 08, 2006 at 13:20:40 PM CST
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Abortion isn't likely to remain legal forever just because it's been legal for the past three decades or so. There are currently five justices who have expressed a willingness to uphold Roe v. Wade - Breyer, Ginsburg, Souter, Kennedy, and Stevens. Stevens was appointed by Gerald Ford and is 85 years old. If he were to retire during the Bush presidency and Bush's nominee were confirmed, the Supreme Court would be likely to overturn Roe.

At which point the issue would go to the state legislatures. You might want to take a second look at that map; it meant states with governors and legislatures with the inclination to ban abortion in Texas in the event Roe v. Wade were overturned. I find it hard to believe the current Texas Legislature wouldn't ban abortion if it had a chance. Granted, a lot of Republicans would probably lose their seats to Democrats or pro-choice Republicans if they voted to overturn abortion, but I'm not willing to risk a two year rash of back alley coat hanger abortions over a man like Kinky Friedman.

So the question is: would a Governor Friedman veto any bill that would ban abortion in Texas? His glib remarks about his stance on choice make me very leary of him, both as a politician who has a public forum to talk about the issues, and as a potential chief executive of Texas.

by: Ryan Goodland @ Wed Mar 08, 2006 at 14:18:55 PM CST
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