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When you yell the term, "fuck her in the ass" infront of several hundred people, you deserve to be put in the back of a police car. There were kids in the room - several of them. Infact, a ut official had their kid there. Seriously, that is not the way to make a point. Get real people.

I was on the stage during the event and bit my tounge somehow. Even I was shocked to hear that come out of someones mouth. The most interesting part - when he was arrested, Ann looked right at myself and Josh Campbell (who was also on stage) and smiled. You know what - she won. That is sad.

I'm not going to defend the guy's actions. It was stupid to make the comment that he did.

However, I wasn't there, but based on what i have heard, the appropriate action would have been to kick him out of the event, but not arrest him.

Grube -- I'm not as embarrassed that "adults" attending an event for a nortorious right-wing activist made off-color statements while "children" were present as I am embarrassed that any parent would bring a child to such an event. Why would ANY responsible parent bring a child to an event which the child does not have the capacity to understand? And if the child had the capacity to understand the event then they are old enough to hear off-color statements.

So if you want to be embarrassed for someone - be embarrassed for the lack of parental judgement shown by those there with children.

He yelled "fuck his wife in the ass" into a microphone infront of several hundred people and then preceded to make masterbation impressions as he skipped back up the pathway. He needed a little jail time - that crossed the line.

I was also sitting on stage and recgonized this guy as being one of the ones who kept yelling stuff. If you want to prove a point, yelling fuck and making masturbatory gestures is not the way to do it. I am glad he got arrested, all of his idiot friends followed him outside.

Like many people, I hated 99.9% of the things that came out of that woman's mouth but the protesters there were being complete idiots. There presence there was a good statement at first and their point was being made then it just got childish.

GT - Dean Brett's kid was there. She has just picked her up from daycare. These kids were too young to understand the dabate about gay marriage and other issues that were brought up, but they were old enough to hear the word fuck, see the middle finger, and see a guy grab his crotch.

I've got to agree. I was there and I found the question not only offensive but - worse - not even clever. He deserved to be arrested. And, as for the objective reporting by the Daily Texan that "a mass exodus of protesters" followed the offender as he was escorted out, come on. There were like 15 protesters there. I attended the Coulter event to see what she had to say, not because I agree with her. She had the right to speak without some child making obscene gestures at her. What exactly did that accomplish again?

It made Drudge Report!

John, though I agree that he shouldn't have said what he did, I do not believe he should be put in jail for excercising his right to speech. Though there are limits on what you can say under the first amendment, we are on a college campus and a student should not be arrested for challenging someone's beliefs. While I agree that mr.fuckherintheass should have been removed immediatley, he shouldn't have been arrested by the police-- this sets a bad precedent

Whether or he should have been arrested or not is not an SEC position. We felt that he should have been kicked out though.

Look, before these ISO children turn this thing into Kent State let me say that this individual was disruptive the entire event. We talked with the protesters, gave them tickets when they didn't have them, let them back in even after they tried to sneak in cameras when we told them they weren't allowed, let them ask questions even when they repeatedly made comments, farting noises, et cetera.

Though he was arrested after his lude comments and gestures (yeah, I love getting quoted saying Masturbatory Gestures)this guy was an ass hole the entire night and will probably be one for the rest of his life.

and he got a Class C Mis which is basically a parking ticket.

Is is really that surprising that inviting a demagogue like Anne Coulter to speak would provoke such comments? Please... this is her bread and butter. What's really embarrassing is that anyone would shell out 30 G's to listen to her spew.

If you want to see the language of the statute, look here - http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/PE/content/htm/pe.009.00.000042.00.htm

I am no lawyer but it seems to me that his actions violate the letter and spirit of the first two sections of that statute. This guy was completely out of line and a ride in a police car was probably good for him. Protestors who seek to drown out the entire event with their shouting have no place and ought to be asked to leave. Protestors that use vulgarity and vulgar gestures deserve what this guy got. A ride to Police Headquarters and a minor misdemeanor.

Hey Mr. LaMasters, I'd appreciate it if you didn't use the term b*tch in a derogatory manner. Being a b*tch is not what makes Coulter offensive. In fact, it's her only endearing quality. It's advocating for war and genocide and oppression that's truly vulgar.

There were "kids in the room"!!! LOLOL! COLLEGE STUDENTS. Uhhh...over 21!

Take the corn cob out of your ass, sit down, shut up and GROW up.

Gosh...you people need a high colonic and a five mile hike your so constipated!

Some faculty brought kids in the five to six years old range...no corn cobs in sight

The Constitution does not guarantee a right to not be offended. The guy had a right to say what he said, and for those that don't like it, go fuck yourself (or your old lady) in the ass.

Just the thought of Ann Coulter standing in a building commemorating the name of Lyndon Johnson is sacrilege.

Well fact remains there were small children and that he did say that. By you telling me to go fuck myself, you are just as low as he was. Also he was arrested on two points under disorderly conduct the second part being that he made the masturbation gesture. Here is the police report.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0504051_ann_coulter_1.html

Arresting that student was wrong, period. He should have just been kicked out. Where does it end? This sets a bad precedent. What he was said was indeed immature and vulgar, but guess what, folks--he has the right to say it. Personally, I would have asked, "How do you feel about heterosexual marriages where the husband repeatedly rapes his wife, beats her and denigrates her? Is that better than two homosexuals getting married?"

Regarding the argument that there were children in the room--I'm sure that hearing hate speech from Ann Coulter will make more of an impression that "f*ck" "ass" or masturbatory gestures. They are too young to understand that--but mommy and daddy embracing "values" and speech such as killing liberals and converting Arabs to Christianity and killing their leaders is something they may vaguely understand now, and will stick with them, rather than lewd actions and speech.

I guess a bunch of you should just run for office so you can change the penal code of the state of Texas. He broke the laws of planks one and two under disorderly conduct - he went to jail and rightfully so.

Maybe some of yall should just hire him a lawyer.

To GT
If the child was old enough to have the capacity to understand the event they were old enough to hear off color language

Hell GT

I'm not old enough to hear that kind of language.

Maybe Ann Coulter (no boyfriend, never married) needs a long weekend of hot, heavy and hard backdoor LOVE to come to her senses. I mean, it's gotta beat watching reruns of "Desperate Housewives" with her cats.

Hmmm... I wonder how many of the people commenting were actually at the event.

"He broke the laws of planks one and two under disorderly conduct" provision the Penal Code of the inimitable Lone Star State, thundered those up and coming Dean Wormers of THE University, who already walk around campus with pickles up where the sun don't shine.

It's all very funny, especially since its the Ann Coulters and the Antonin Scalias of the world, as well as the Republican/Bigot Party who are truly obsessed with the behavior now so verbally and colorfully tossed back at them and who want to put people in prison for it. Maybe we should now put these true "instigators" and "outside agitators" in jail under the newly expanded and capitalized offenses of "Bad Taste," "Disruptive" and "Lewd Conduct" and, most ominous, "Crossing the Line."

good question. whats also funny, in my opinion, if that the protestors were not as bad as I expeceted. Compared to the cow bells and pie throwing that went on at David Horowitz or the cookie throwing mob at the YCT event a while back, the protestors here seemed civil...funny how low my standards have become for a "civil" protest. Also funny how the same people are at all these protests...

It just came to me why us Democrats cant win many offices anymore. We think that yelling fuck outloud and jokingly masturbating in public is decent behavior and gains support for our ideals. For the love of God, think about what your defending.

Maybe its just me and my moderate democratic and southern upbringing, by last time I checked, foul language in public and crotch grabbing are not very well respected.

Ann Coulter? Speaking at UT? Wait, wait, don't tell me the next lecturer is Jeff Gannon. No wait, former nominee to the United Nations John "Blowback" Bolton.

Well, I never thought I'd end up on drudge saying "Masturbatory Gesture" someone shoot me.

now we've made wonk:

http://www.wonkette.com/

I agree. Rather than utter the term he did,
the protester should rather have tastefully said "anally penetrate." Smile when you say those words.

It is on Hannity & Colmes tonight at 8pm on Fox News. I just listened to it on Rush Limbaugh ( I was only listening because I heard it was on there)

omgomg he said fuck in the butt and stuff. that was AWESOME. Ann has no cunt lips, i saw this. kk bye 111oneoneone

Ann Coulter needs a good hard ass pounding. Maybe it will remove her head from her ass.

Sounds like Coulter wasn't the only disturbed invidual in Austin the other night. What's obscene, however, is paying that deranged c--t $30,000 to hear her tell the same lies she tells on TV for nothing.

The fact the this "pub" would use the language it did in what was disguised as a news story shows the UT School of Journalism is a joke with an agenda. What happened to just reporting the facts. Journalists are not supposed to demonstrate their biases when covering the news. Referring to Ms. Coulter as an extreme right-wing pundit and calling her a bitch is not journalism ... Oh, that's right, ya'll attend the Dan Rather School of Journalism. My mistake.

While we're on the topic of Ann Coulter and anal sex, have you seen this yet: http://ifuckedanncoulterintheasshard.blogspot.com ?

It was acutally more like 35,000 but whatever

Raj is self proclaimed drug dealer:

"To make an already abbreviated story even more so, my attorney says he can get the charges dismissed.... Ironic, really—to get out of this drug charge, I’m forced to arrange bigger drug deals than I ever intended to."

- Raj

via partycampus

This guy is just a stupid sophomore kid.

Yeah, he sounds like a real sweetheart. His posting there is pretty far out.

It's not illegal to be stupid, or to say stupid things.

Just ask Ann Coulter...the queen of bad taste.

How come no one screams for her to be tossed in jail when she libels someone.

She's fair game as "person of notoriety". Just as the people SHE insults are fair game.

If your sensibilities are offended, I think you need to move to a convent. Or a totalitarian state.

Hello, people, this *was* Ann Coulter giving the speech, someone who's made a career out of flaming her opponents.

I was there, and I really did not think that the protesters drowned her out. In fact, I was disappointed at all the clapping that went on. Especially because few people laughed during her monologue. She really wasn't that funny - even to the conservatives. It was only her quips during the Q & A that got her supporters riled up. But I totally agree that he should not have been arrested. He was vulgar and distasteful, true. He committed a crime. Ok. But it's a dumb law, and I think it's unconstitutional. Do we need to talk about other dumb laws this state has passed? I don't care if there were kids in the audience. Trying to protect kids from the word "fuck is idiotic." They've heard it before, and they're going to hear it again. Like others have said, it's much more disturbing to me that kids are hearing her espouse comments of hatred, intolerance, and violence against political dissidents. And if parents didn't want their children to hear inappropriate language, they shouldn't have taken them to see an incendiary and controversial conservative figure at a "liberal" college campus.

Just saw on partycampus that Ajai Raj is not only an apparent pot bustee, but also a younger fellow admirer of gonzo journalist Hunter S. Thompson. So forget what I wrote above about "anally penetrate." Ajai's original phrasing and gestures were just fine under the circumstances.
And toke a big one when you say those words,
over the line as far as necessary.

Regarding the argument that there were children in the room--I'm sure that hearing hate speech from Ann Coulter will make more of an impression that "f*ck" "ass" or masturbatory gestures. They are too young to understand that--but mommy and daddy embracing "values" and speech such as killing liberals and converting Arabs to Christianity and killing their leaders is something they may vaguely understand now, and will stick with them, rather than lewd actions and speech.

You were obviously never a child, were you?

So, the big issue is what he said & how he gestured? Give me a break.

Coulter is well known for her venomous hateful statements. Why would any parent want their child exposed to that? Might as well take your kids to a Klan rally...

Did anyone think to copy and save the posting from campusparty? He pulled it offline and I would like to repost it on West Campus Insider. If so, please email it to me at jamesmburnham@gmail.com. Thanks!

they shouldn't have taken them to see an incendiary and controversial conservative figure at a "liberal" college campus.

In other words, only liberal figures should be allowed to speak at a liberal campus?

Such tolerance!

This comment thread validates everything David Horowitz says about the intolerance of liberal academia. Among other things, Coulter is blamed for the entire episode...or the parents who brought their children are to blame...everyone is to blame except the sociopath who obscenely interrupted her free speech. Comments even to the effect that it was actually the protestor who had his free speech suppressed! That only liberals should be allowed to speak because it's a liberal college!

To top it off, a liberal commentator points out the obvious truth that the guy was a jerk and deserved arrest, and offers a pragmatic point that this sort of behavior validates the worst mid-America has to think about college campuses today...does he inspire any reconsideration from other posters? Nope, only derision and abuse, heaped on his head.

Keep it up and in ten years, you will spell Democrat W-H-I-G.

The guy that got arrested was a total moron - below is what he write on party campus.

"The Pigfucking Establishment had other plans. My roommate and I were awakened at 3 A.M. by two grinning Austin Police Department officers and a greasy-haired fat fuck of an RA who gets his jollies by hanging around with his thumb in his ass until he smells marijuana so he can inform the Justice League in exchange for a free raffle ticket. No shit— as the cops cuffed me for having an ounce of grass, this fucker got a chance to win a free microwave. Or to suck off a sheriff, as far as I know or care."

This guy is a complete idiot. jail is his place

Yes, lets arrest everyone who we believe to have committed the "crime" of acting like "a jerk" (David Horowitz) or "a complete idiot" (Grube). Call Dean Wormer! "Jail is his place!" "Off with his head"

Raj...I have some bad news for you. It's called Google Cache.

I'll make sure to forward this link to the Dean of Students at UT and to the Travis County DA.

BOR won't let me post the link to the Google cached article...you can find it linked on my blog.

"I'll make sure to report this link to the Dean of Students at UT. . ." Seems that Dean Vernon Wormer has found his Doug Neidermeyer!

Coleman - Shut the hell up. Where you even there?

I'm surprised nobody has analogized this incident to the NYU Law student who asked Justice Scalia if he sodomizes his wife. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if that's where this guy got the idea.

D--

I DO remember being a child, thank you, and I DO remember things of substance from said stage of life--values my parents embrace, feelings about Reagan, etc. The kids probably got a giggle and will remember it the lewdness for awhile--but that is not the point at all. They were exposed to hate speech and possibly violent ideas (I was not at the speech, but I have heard enough from Ann Coulter to know what she likes to talk about) and trust me, THAT is more frightening than children being exposed to some hand-to-crotch action by a lone agent provacateur. When people get all upset and their boxers in a bunch over F*ck and a$$ being said in front of children, they are completely missing the point. (Like kids don't hear it on TV or from their parents anyway.)

That said, this being the 35th anniversary of the Kent State Massacre, (it is still May 4th here in AZ as I write this, and I am a former resident of Ohio) I think we all need to give free speech (inappropriate as the comments may be) on campus a good, hard look, and make sure that universities do not set a precedent of arresting those with whom the brass does not agree, simply because they can. Remember, the massacre started out as crowd control...

so much for freedom of speech. and who cares if kids were in the room, they are gonna hear it sooner or later, sheltering your child ruins him/her for life.

Stupid fucking liberals. How about a little organisation? When these bigot butt-kissers speak we all sing God Bless America while giving them the finger. Every f*cking time, over and over and over again. I can't keep helping you people. GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER! I should be f*cking now, not reading. And damn; these college republican\Nixon snitch types are really, really CREEPY. Can't believe they came back. Harder to kill than an ivory billed woodpecker I guess.

As long as we continue to support these ISO people (I know I sure dont) and talk proudly about what they do and how they act - WE WILL ALL LOOK LIKE IDIOTS. It makes the entire left look bad! Get the damn clue!

The best thing that happened is that he got assested. Why you might ask. When he got taken out, all of his idiotic friends went with him. One arrest was better than 5-6.

If anyone really wants to protest something, go protest the ISO meeting. Tell them to stop making the rest of us look like idiots and act in a somewhat mature manner.

Remember, the massacre started out as crowd control...

The Kent State "massacre" began the previous day when rioting students burned the ROTC building to the ground.

As Neil Young wrote: "Gotta get down to it...Soldiers are cutting us down...should'a been done long ago." Yep: Kent State should'a been done long before May 4, 1970; once the soldiers cut them down, the hippie revolution petered out.

Answer to Grube, Chair of the Distinguished Speakers Committee:

No, I was not there (I am now in the Legal Affairs Penthouse Suite atop the World HQ of the Writers Guild of America, west, Inc., accross the street from Television City in Hollywood) but the Raj arrest does not appear to be even a judgment call. But no one should be arrested just for asking a question that some consider offensive or that by some Karma inspired miracle leaves a "Distinguished Speaker" the likes of Ann Coulter momentarily speachless and mortified.

Nor was I there when Austin PD arrested actor Jason Patric on a bogus public intoxication charge or when it overreacted by hauling in members of the LA band Ozomatli for making too much noise during a concert. As you may know, all those charges were dismissed because they had insufficient legal and factual basis.

All of these incidents leave me and others who are interested from afar with the distinct impression that the Austin area gendarmes are in over their heads when it comes to crowd control and making professional judgments while dealing with sometimes difficult and emotional situations.

Like the last time I was in the Capitol City a couple of years ago (as a Texas native) to protest a decision by the Texas Board of Health to cut off AIDS medications for hundreds of Texans who needed them to stay alive. Within limits, we were all very vocal, and as a result got the Board's attention. At least the police were not called in and, best of all, funding was retored.

Well worth the 1,500 mile drive from the coast. Look forward to returning under better circumstances.

Happy trails.

Arrested for exercising free speech in America? The fascists have fucked us all up the ass, I say!

Interesting, if anyone cares to know, the story made it on Times of India online. Here's a link

Here is the link on Times of India. Couldn't click and open in the previous post.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1100213.cms

"The Kent State "massacre" began the previous day when rioting students burned the ROTC building to the ground."

First of all, the proper name of the incident is indeed Massacre. It is known as the Kent State Massacre. So, don't get sarcastic with me, "Neil Young."

The National Guard was called in, and unarmed students were shot. Ironically enough, of the two non-protesting students who were killed (they were on their way to class), one was an ROTC student.

A peaceful protest was planned for May 4th, 1970. The National Guard was called to the campus by the governor. A group of guardsmen were on a practice field, and a few students threw rocks, but mostly made obscene gestures and comments. The guardsmen were surrounded by unarmed students. Suddenly, a 13-second shooting spree erupted. I believe there were 67 rounds fired, 4 people were dead, others injured and confined to wheelchairs. So, yes, the shooting incident was, indeed, begun as crowd control.

BTW, BOR can record ISP addresses--your support of violence needs to 'peter out' if you don't want a friendly e-mail sent to your ISP.

I want to elaborate on my last post a bit, as I realized I came off sounding like the thought police. Advocating violence and *killing* because of political differences has no room in the public discourse. That is why I hate Ann Coulter so much, and that is why I do not take kindly to posts such as that of "Neil Young." Byron, Karl-T, myself, and other left-of-center BOR posters don't deserve to be murdered because we are liberal and against the war. Students who care enough to take a stand don't deserve to be cut down by the military. No one does. And guess what--no one deserves to be murdered for espousing a right-wing agenda, either.

That is what I meant when I said that getting upset because of a few lewd words/gestures was beside the point. I am more concerned about a new generation of hate being sown. So many parents are already lax regarding child-rearing (it seems that many children have no boundaries--trust me, I am around them daily), and I am concerned that hate speech and advocating violence and killing over political differences, as embraced by parents, will have a detrimental effect on the society led by the new generation.

"Neil Young" will not get a letter to his ISP--because his comments are vague enough. It still sounded to me like he advocated violence against students, though. I am a huge supporter of the first amendment, but when people come on a thread and advocate the taking of lives over political differences, that is crossing the line, and not protected speech.

I have said all I want to say without talking in circles.

It's a hoot to read bloggins from a bunch of whining, knee-jerk liberal wanna-be-a-Caliprunians ... Go west, you losers! Then we can close the left border and wait for the big one when Caliprunia slides off into the Pacific... Jeez, someday, you 'people' are going to have to grow up and get a life in the real world--that's a frightening thought!

Deserved to be arrested? Maybe removed from the room for acting like a monkey, but not arrested.

Ann Coulter gets to say what she wants - and she deserves no more respect than she dishes out. She says what ever comes to her sick narrow mind - and should expect the same from others.

COULTER:

"God says, "Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours."

"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building."

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. "

"We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed too."

Ah yes, America, where when you curse in public you get arrested...sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing.