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February 15, 2005Guilty PleasuresBy Byron LaMastersBefore I started my own blog, I often entertained myself by engaging in debate with conservatives on various blogs – notably the original Political Wire several years back when comments were enabled. Now, that I’ve had my own platform in which to write, I tend to focus on my own posts, and limit my comments elsewhere, but sometimes I still engage in the guilty pleasures of taking on the right-wingers and pointing out their inconsistencies. Yesterday was one of those days, so go ahead and read the exchange I had with Chris Elam, and some of his readers on the issue of same-sex marriage equality. So, check it out and entertain yourself. Posted by Byron LaMasters at February 15, 2005 03:56 PM | TrackBack
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Well we always knew that Chris was Pro-Discrimination, so that's nothing new. Posted by: Karl-Thomas at February 15, 2005 05:54 PMYep... I am also pro-discrimination against: incest, pedophilia, bestiality, incest, and polygamy. I wanna deny marriage to all of them! Don't you? And if so, isn't that a little DISCRIMINATORY? Why can't they marry WHOM THEY PLEASE? Why deny them their love? I'm encouraging audience participation on these questions over at my site. Come drop by! Posted by: Chris Elam at February 15, 2005 06:30 PMWow, Chris, we can agree on opposing incest, pedophilia, bestiality, and polygamy!! Shocker.. Posted by: Byron L at February 15, 2005 07:03 PMRight-wing bigotry and discrimination was SO 2004... Chris is like the 80's... Tacky, tasteless, and yet, somehow, in style again! Posted by: Jason at February 15, 2005 08:06 PMByron... for shame. Discriminating against people in our society based SOLELY on their sexual preferences. For shame... Haven't heard from either of BOR's homosexual commentators over at Safety For Dummies "Marriage Definition Sweepstakes!" =) Looking forward to an honest, intellectual discussion of why its OK to discriminate marriage choice against certain members of society! Posted by: Chris Elam at February 15, 2005 09:44 PMi've always wondered . . . if it's perfectly okay and welcomed and encouraged and the norm and everyone should be happy that homosexual men are perfectly free to marry homosexual women thus making marriage absolutely non-discriminatory . . . then it smells like it IS discriminatory for heterosexual men not to be able to marry other heterosexual men . . . or not . . . ? Posted by: tony g at February 15, 2005 11:41 PMGuess Chris really didn't want "honest, intellectual discussion of why its OK to discriminate marriage choice against certain members of society." BTW Chris, what was my lie? Where did I express hate. To the contrary, in the post you deleted I expressly said you have the right to what ever morals and viewpoints you want but that it is bigoted to force those views on others without compelling cause. And in my discussion of my views of what it means to be bigoted, I purposefully used the term "one" rather than "you" to indicate I wasn't attacking you personally. I guess it struck a chord with you nonetheless. And I'll note my definition of bigot is much narrower than DowntownLad's musing on the matter. But hey, it is your blog, and if you wish to snuff out rational discourse and discussion on a matter of public concern on your site, you can. Just don't try to tell us you are for an open marketplace of ideas and "honest, intellectual discussion". Posted by: Craig at February 16, 2005 12:44 PMPeople like Chris are only out to waste our time. Make a good faith effort to argue the point, but when it devolves into babbling logical inconsistency ("I want to deny them rights!" "They have all the rights we do!") -- or reasonable comments start getting deleted -- it's time to leave. The right used to call these people idiotarians. Now they just call them their base. Posted by: Matt W. at February 16, 2005 12:55 PMGood point Matt. =) Posted by: Byron L at February 16, 2005 01:43 PM
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