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October 27, 2004

While you were in Iraq...

By Zach Neumann

North Korea has still not come to the table to discuss their growing nuclear armaments program. The NY Times reports that:

A trip to East Asia by Secretary of State Colin L. Powell aimed at forging a united front on North Korea ended Tuesday on a discordant note, with Mr. Powell rebuffing a suggestion by China and South Korea that they all show greater flexibility in pressing for an end to the North's nuclear program.

The disagreement appeared to reinforce the diplomatic impasse over North Korea's nuclear activities and to make it unlikely that the North would end its boycott of regional talks on the issue anytime soon.

Standing by Mr. Powell at a news conference, the South Korean foreign minister, Ban Ki Moon, said in response to a question that the United States and other partners in talks on nuclear issues "must come up with a more creative and realistic proposal so that North Korea can come to the negotiating table as soon as possible."

Earlier, the official New Chinese News Agency released a similar comment from China's foreign minister, Li Zhaoxing.

"We wish the U.S. side would go further to adopt a flexible and practical attitude on the issue," the press agency quoted Mr. Li as telling Mr. Powell during a meeting in Beijing on Monday. "China will make efforts to push for a new round of six-party talks at the earliest date in a bid to carry on the hard-earned peaceful discussion process."

I find it ironic that President Bush talks big about disarming dictators but turns a blind eye to Kim-Jung Ils unabashed pursuit of a nuclear arsenal. While North Korea has openly sought to improve payload and delivery capacities, Bush has responded by withdrawing a considerable number of troops from South Korea. It seems that the President only supports wars that get rid of weak dictators who pose no imminent threat to the United States.

Before I get ten angry comments calling me an idiot allow me to clarify Im not saying we should invade North Korea here, Im saying the President is a hypocrite.

Posted by Zach Neumann at October 27, 2004 03:57 PM | TrackBack


I wouldnt call you an idiot. Thats what Democrats do when they don't have a logical argument. I would call you uninformed about the situation. We negotiated with N Korea in the 90's under President Clinton, which resulted in N Korea attaining nuclear material...which is now the problem! What you are now suggesting is that we come to the table, yet it is N Korea that is balking at talking to US. Perhaps you consider Kim Jong Il's boycott to be Bush's fault...but I think responsibility lies entirely with the N Korean Dictator. Perhaps a President Kerry will be "flexible" as the Communists in Asia would like our President to be. I hope not.

Posted by: Adam at October 27, 2004 04:19 PM

A question remains . . . if nuclear Korea will not negotiate, how will we bring them to compliance?

That is what everyone wants to know . . . much more real threat than Saddam, yet we don't knock him over.

Posted by: Keith at October 27, 2004 04:36 PM

Thanks for the history lesson Keith. I am aware that Clinton's negligence contributed greatly to North Korea's acquisition of Nuclear Weapons. However, President Bush substantially furthered this problem when he ended the "no-nuke-reward" program started by Clinton. Do I think Clinton was intelligent in coddling a dictator? Absolutley not. But did Bush display a better grasp of the situation when he ended aid to Korea and then did nothing else to disarm them? Clearly, no.

I think its funny that you jump all over me about Clinton-- you assume that I think he took a better approach to the situation than Bush. In reality, both men mishandled it. The point of my post (if you missed it) was to demonstrate that President Bush, despite all his pro war rhetoric is not willing to confront a legitimate threat to our national security.

Posted by: Zach N at October 27, 2004 07:04 PM

I agree with Zach N. President Bush has really backed down on this one.

Posted by: Johnlam at October 27, 2004 10:39 PM

All of a sudden Democrats are hawkish about confronting a nuclear threat in N Korea...but we should have never confronted a threat in Iraq?? Hypocritical is not the word I'd use for Bush. I would use it for every anti-war Democrat that is pushing for some aggression against a known nuclear power! Kerry says we should use Diplomacy, and Bush has done just that. Apparently nothing Bush does is good enough for the hypocritical Democrats this year.

Posted by: Adam at October 28, 2004 09:10 AM

HEY DIPSHIT-- just becuase Zach N is a democrat doesn't mean he supports every policy the party (or John Kerry)does. He can be critical of Bush and Clinton at the same time. Just becuase your in mindless lockstep with Bush doesn't mean Zach N has to be. Your a pathetic fucking idiot man.

Posted by: Mugsy at October 28, 2004 10:32 AM

Name calling...typical liberal response to logic. Oh well. I don't think Zach is stupid...quite smart actually. He's exploring, debating, discussing. These are things intelligent people do, Mugsy. We can disagree and still have intelligent opinions. I'm not in lockstep with anyone...just wondering how Democrats can be hawkish against N Korea but dovish on Iraq. Is it ok to ask these "hard-hitting" questions? Or am I supposed to just beleive what I'm told without considering both sides? Mugsy...call me what you want. You don't offer any intelligent response to any of my questions.

Posted by: Adam at October 28, 2004 10:58 AM

The difference between Korea and Iraq is one has the damn thing and the other was a figment of someones imagination. The Iraqi nuclear progrma was devastated by the bombing of their just completed reactor in the early to mid 80's. I had never recovered; years of sanctions and their own internal policies had so crippled their infrastructure that the threat by Iraq was negligble while the threat from N korea is real and growing every day

Posted by: cacafuego at October 30, 2004 03:44 PM

This is the reason we must get rid of Bu$h before we are he ones facing sanctions THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAMR511472004

Posted by: Tomtech at October 31, 2004 01:12 AM
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