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October 13, 2004

Debate #3 Thread

By Byron LaMasters

Television.... check. Internet access... check. Jim ready to liveblog with me ... check Time for Kerry to go three for three... sounds good to me.

Byron L. in regular font, Jim D. in italics.

9:36: FOX News is calling Bush out on the Bush / Osama gaffe... sorta.

9:35: CNN's Carlos Watson: Kerry won.

9:30: Overall, I think tonight was Bush's best performance. He wasn't too wound up, or too peeved. Still, I wouldn't call it a Bush victory. I think the media will filter through all the facts/myths, and many of the things that Bush said won't pass the smell test.

9:30: That's the second time. What the heck are the "armies of compassion"? Does Bush want our army to be more compassionate? That sounds a lot like fighting a more sensitive war on terrorism to me.

9:29: I think Kerry has done a good job of showing to us his principles tonight.

9:27: GOD DAMNIT. Cards up 6-4.

9:26: The DailyKOS IRCers say Kerry is playing the Mom card

9:23: Bush: No sucka, John McCain is my bitch!

9:16: Little girls? Little Girls!?!? Who does Bush think he is... John Edwards?

9:11: Good way of framing the gun issue for Kerry. It's a no-win issue for him, but he framed it just about as best he could, especially by hitting at the law enforcement angle.

9:09: The first Gulf war. Smart for Bush to remind folks about that even though this debate seems to continually gravitate towards foreign policy.

9:07: What boggles me is that Bush seems to vacillate between angry and humbled. It's like he's being smacked around.

9:00: Do you oppose Roe v. Wade? No answer.

[The first hour is in the extended entry.]

8:59: That was the best two minutes for Kerry for the night. Bush just has no creditability on issues like jobs and a minimum wage. On both issues, Bush changed the subject to education within seconds.

8:58: KILL KERRY! KILL KILL KILL! Attack the House Republicans! YES! YES! YES!

8:56: Video Proof: Bin-Laden doesn't concern Bush.

8:53: Maybe the immigrants can practice their love on women.

8:52: It'll be fun to fact check that after the debate (Bush's response on the second Social Security question).

8:46: The cost of doing nothing? You mean the cost of not stopping the raiding of social security by the Republican congress?

8:45: Astros 4-2 end of 4th inning

8:42: Bush is going on his paranoid anti-commie rant.

8:41: Bush says just don't trust any news networks anymore? Ok, that might play with the conservative base, but I think beyond that it falls flat.

8:38: Smacked DOWN

8:37: Kerry has got his groove back

8:35: Buggy and horse?

8:34: HAHAH Bush just cowered before Kerry.

8:30: Good to see Kerry go on the record saying that homosexuality is something that is decided at birth, and on the record for various benefits for gay and lesbian couples, although it would have been nice to see a follow-up on what he meant specifically by that.


8:28: ASTROS UP 4-2! Go Astros!

8:25: Shocker on this one: "Ted Kennedy is the conservative senator from Massachusetts".

8:21: Whooooow! My brain cells just can't function that fast!

8:21: Tony Soprano - Now that was a good line, JFK

8:18: OK, I'll be fair. Bush is going into his canned "liberal liberal liberal!" attack

8:17: Wow. We hear "Massachusetts" and "tax gap" at the same time. I guess Bush forgot about that timber company that he owns again.

8:15: I'm inclined to agree. Kerry's trying to get every zinger into the first thirty minutes. It almost seems like what Bush did in the first debate.

8:14: Kerry's off key, he's throwing in irrelevant attacks instead of answering question.

8:12: Now George Bush should know something about bait and switch.

8:11: Kerry personalizes it. Those kids in Arizona, and oh yeah, two other random states, Ohio and Wisconsin.

8:11: Blame the lawyers

8:10: 1) Bush feels our pain, he didn't get a flu shot. 2) Flu vaccines are tied to tort reform? Huh?

8:09: Bush is lying already WTF is Bush talking about?

8:08: Ex-a-ger-a-tions? It'll be easy to bring up some "Al-Qaeda is not the priority" quotes post-debate.

Pandagon has it now:

BUSH: "And [Osama Bin Laden is] just – he’s a person who has now been marginalized. His network is -- his host government has been destroyed. He’s the ultimate parasite who found weakness, exploited it, and met his match…So I don’t know where he is. Nor -- you know, I just don’t spend that much time on him really, to be honest with you. I…I truly am not that concerned about him."

[Bush Remarks, 3/13/02]

8:07: Nuisance. That was quick.

8:04: Both are wearing red ties! Fashion faux pas!

7:57: Also liveblogging, Swanky Conservative, Vodka Pundit, Washington Monthly and Pandagon.

Posted by Byron LaMasters at October 13, 2004 07:55 PM | TrackBack


Does Bush has some white crap in the corner of his mouth at the beginning of the debate?

Posted by: austingirl at October 13, 2004 08:22 PM

dailykos.com has the Bush "...not that concerned" about bin Laden quote up.

Posted by: Robert Gordon Durst at October 13, 2004 08:26 PM

What if you had a sex change and now you are really totally a man or a women or opposite of whatever and then you marry the opposite sex.
What if your multiple personalities are women and men?
what about people born transgendered?
Do they get to marry?
What about the don't ask, don't tell policy?
im kidding...
JFK just said he can't force his own religious views on America!
The dude has balls...
It cracks me up EVERYTIME, when men discuss abortion...
Did y'all see ALIEN?
just wait until it happens to you...

Posted by: austingirl at October 13, 2004 08:36 PM

I guess tax breaks and Pell grants are to be the saviors of the middle class Americans.

Posted by: jlk at October 13, 2004 09:24 PM

Bush actually did well . . . now, you may not like the substance, but he seemed like he knew what he was doing.

Guess they got the meds right . . . just kidding.

Posted by: Keith G at October 13, 2004 10:18 PM

Well, once you've repeated the same speech 650 times, you start to get it right.

It seemed to take Kerry the first 1/3 of the debate to shake off his vallium. Bush, on the other hand, went downhill after the 1/2 way mark. Interrupting the moderator to answer the wrong question, and then not use the entire 2 minutes was a stooopid mistake.

Posted by: Clay at October 13, 2004 10:37 PM
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