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March 23, 2004

We Know That They Are Lying

By Jim Dallas

As usual, all the TVs in my parents' house were turned on to FOX News yesterday (no, I don't have power over the remote control), and it was one non-stop marathon of Richard Clarke-bashing.

(OK, I think they did talk about the Scott Petersen trial for a few minutes).

The steady march of pundits, politicians, and "analysts" coming up with new and more exciting reasons not to believe Clarke was pretty impressive, as an exercise in political damage control. But while the Bush administration had lots of quantity, they didn't have much quality.

Because it's painfully obvious that Bush's proxies are lying.

I'm not saying Bush's proxies are liars because they're "partisan" or "disgruntled" or "out of the loop," as Clarke may or may not have been.

I am saying they are liars simply because what they are saying is counter-factual and internally-inconsistent.

They are liars not for who they are or who they work for. They are liars because they are not telling the truth.

The Blogger Formerly Known as Calpundit makes this clear:

Look, every bit of evidence indicates that the Bush foreign policy team didn't see foreign terrorism as a top priority before 9/11. What's more, it's hardly plausible that the administration's top counterterrorism guy was "out of the loop" on what was supposedly the administration's biggest counterterrorism initiative. And given his background and his known intensity toward fighting terrorism, it's also unlikely to the point of lunacy to think that if the Bushies had been planning a bigger and far more extensive anti-terrorism program than Clinton's — no more "swatting flies"! — that Clarke would have opposed it. He probably would have been dancing in the streets.

But the Bush apologists can't be happy with simply suggesting that maybe Clarke misinterpreted what he heard, and in any case 9/11 was a wakeup call for all of us, wasn't it? That would be too subtle, too honest, too nuanced for them. Instead, they have to open up the throttle all the way and insist against all evidence that in reality they were working on the mother of all counterterrorism plans before 9/11 but their chief counterterrorism guy wasn't in the loop.

It's really a pretty pathetic performance. The only thing they know how to do is attack and then attack even harder, and look where it gets them: a pile of federal investigations and stories that are spun so ludicrously that even their supporters are probably having trouble swallowing them. You'd think they'd learn eventually.

Atrios links to Moe Blues, who nails it --

So Dick Cheney is making the rounds claiming that Clarke was “out of the loop” in the administration’s counter-terror efforts. Therefore, Clarke doesn’t know what he's talking about and anything he says should be instantly discounted.

It’s amazing that Cheney does not seem to realize what he is actually saying: That the Bush administration’s top expert on terrorism was not consulted about their counter-terrorism efforts. This presents several unpalatable choices:

1. Cheney is lying for political gain. If the public picks up on this, the backlash could be out of all proportion to the damage Cheney is trying to control.

2. The administration deliberately ignored its in-house expert, with September 11 being the result. This eliminates one more scapegoat, since the White House cannot simultaneously blame Clarke for failing to stop 9/11 while claiming he was “out of the loop” on counter-terrorism.

3. Assuming Cheney speaks the truth, it actually bolsters Clarke’s claim to Cassandra-hood. Cut out of the loop, his warnings went nowhere and were ignored. That, too, is pretty damning of the administration.

With Clarke due to testify before the 9/11 Commission, how long will it be before Cheney’s statements are "no longer operative?"

It comes down to this - Richard Clarke might be less than perfect, but we know (prima facie) that the other guys are lying.

Clarke's charges deserve to be dealt with using facts and logic, not slime.

UPDATE: Daschle Agrees!

Now the White House seeks to destroy his reputation. The people around the President aren't answering his allegations; instead, they are trying to use the same tactics they used with Paul O'Neill. They are trying to ridicule Mr. Clarke and destroy his credibility, and create any diversion possible to focus attention away from his serious allegations.

The purpose of government isn't to make the President look good. It isn't to produce propaganda or misleading information. It is, instead, to do its best for the American people and to be accountable to the American people.

The people around the President don't seem to believe that. They have crossed a line -- perhaps several lines -- that no government ought to cross.

We shouldn't fire or demean people for telling the truth. We shouldn't reveal the names of law enforcement officials for political gain. And we shouldn't try to destroy people who are out to make country safer.

I think the people around the President have crossed into dangerous territory. We are seeing abuses of power that cannot be tolerated.

The President needs to put a stop to it, right now. We need to get to the truth, and the President needs to help us do that.

Posted by Jim Dallas at March 23, 2004 11:43 AM | TrackBack


Cheney claims that Clarke "wasn't in the loop, frankly, on a lot of this stuff''.
What does it say about the priority the administration gave to fighting terrorism if its anti-terrorism czar was kept "out of the loop"?

Bush was so unfocused on terrorism, that on 9/11 he could only hop on Air Force One and flee deep into America's interior.

Jim, don't worry about your parents. Bush will carry Texas (and Utah) no matter what. lol

Fox News may try to discredit or ignore Clarke, but he is still getting a good amount of favorable, or at least neutral, exposure in the mainstream media. People who watch Fox are predisposed to believe Bush propaganda anyway.
Half of last Sunday's 60 Minutes was devoted to Richard Clarke. The former anti-terrorism czar came across as credible, knowledgeable, and strong.
A majority of the text of the piece and several video clips can be found here.

When Clarke is allowed to speak for himself, he is formidable. And he will be in the media quite a bit in the next few weeks because of his testimony before the 9/11 commission and because of his book tour. Chances are good he will be on Nightline soon.

Speaking of the 9/11 commission, the NPR station in Champaign-Urbana will carry Clarke's testimony live on Wednesday (March 24th). I don't know what time Clarke goes on, but coverage starts at 7:30 AM (Central Time) and can be heard here:

This is the issue which will make or break Bush. The bottom line is that he is running on his record on terrorism. Social security, gay marriage, tax breaks for the rich, and unemployment are all peripheral by comparison.
Even before Clarke's revelations, the Bush-Cheney-Rove campaign was planning to launch an ad blitz designed to make Kerry look weak on defense. But Kerry's votes on (sometimes) obscure legislation will seem trivial when compared to the Bushies' pre-9/11 arrogant negligence.

The Democrats have to relentlessly hammer away on this. Stay on message, avoid side arguments on petty details, and don't let Republicans change the subject.
The GOP has used such methods to successfully get their message across, but are we up to it?

Posted by: Tim Z at March 23, 2004 07:19 PM

Kerry should really pick up on this one. It seems this administration will never admit when it's wrong and will not take responsibility when it makes a mistake. And if you dare leave the Bush White House and tell what went on in there you face personal distruction.

Posted by: Tek_XX at March 23, 2004 10:48 PM

I've posted this about a million times. When Bush came in, he totally deprioritized anti-terrorism, and he focused the entire national security appartus on missle defense. 9/11 was the result.

Posted by: WhoMe? at March 24, 2004 01:07 AM

WhoMe's right. Bush ignored terrorism for nine months- and then, when buildings were burning and Americans dying, he continued to ignore them, sitting on his butt reading books with little kids.

Posted by: John at March 24, 2004 09:29 AM

I had hope someone would bring up another possibility: that not only what Chaney was correct about 'out of the loop' because that specifically implies something altogether different. Considering the 'Special Plan Group' and what has been revealed so far, perhaps another policy- and decision-making group altogether.

Posted by: walkshills at March 26, 2004 09:46 PM
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