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March 05, 2004

So we made him deny it. So what?

By Jim Dallas

As has already been sufficiently covered, Gov. Perry has angrily denied rumors that we passed on, relating to certain details of the Governor's personal life.

For what it's worth, I take a certain satisfaction in knowing that four college kids with an Internet account can get under the skin of Gov. Perry in the way that we did. Maybe it's a sign that democracy in America is still functioning.

On the other hand, the true test of that will come on the day that Gov. Perry actually listens to what we and other members of our generation have to say about important policy matters.

When we slammed Perry about tuition increases at the University and other schools, did he care?

When I questioned the efficacy of the Trans-Texas Corridor, did he care?

Has Rick Perry cared any time we've had anything substantive to say about matters that effect the people of Texas? Please present evidence in the affirmative, if any exists.

That, my friends, is what's really defamed and corrupted democracy in Texas - that fact that our public leaders don't care any more.

Unless it's some college kids passing on rumors which, at the time, were very strongly corroborated by people "in the know" at the capitol and elsewhere in state politics.

Governor Perry - either our opinions matter, or they don't. Stop drawing double standards.

In other news, I got accepted to law school today. After much deliberation I voted for John Kerry yesterday. Substitute teaching has been muy bueno.

P.S. Please let me add that I sincerely regret any personal harm that our thoughts have caused the Governor and Mrs. Perry; although I still feel rather upset that the Governor singled-out our blog.

Posted by Jim Dallas at March 5, 2004 08:42 PM | TrackBack


Great comeback to an obviously bleating defensive by Governor Purty Hair. I have added you to my favorites list.

The other day I saw a bumper sticker on a car that read, "He Ain't Kinky, He's My Governor." Turned out to be Kinky Friedman's. But just let me get my hands on one and I don't care who mistakes me for a rumor mongerer. You are absolutely right. When did Perry ever care? His paranoia at being thought of as gay reveals DEEP seated homophobia. Now, me thinks yon Purdy Hair doth protesteth too much!


Posted by: Cliff Hammond at March 5, 2004 09:05 PM

What a goon Perry is... you're absolutely right. He should care about stuff that matters... i get taken for straight all the time. Does it make me sick? no. but I would rather they not think or assume I am gay. What am I doing about that? Being myself...

Good job bringing up this point... and keep talking things that matter.

Posted by: troy at March 5, 2004 10:44 PM

Doh... I meant... i wish they would not think or assume I'm straight...

Posted by: troy at March 5, 2004 10:45 PM

Congratulations Byron.
Its been cool to have been apart of all this hype in your blog.
When the Statesmen posted that you were 21, as if to discredit anything you think or post because of your age,it was patronizing.
I didn't know you were younger, I thought you were grad, maybe 28,29.
It has just made me respect you more.
People in the rest of the world are taking over countries at 20, and lead rebellions.
Your a brave and intelligent writer.
You have helped provide an outlet for many people to voice themselves and you have maintained a demure and composed attitude.
I hope you keep your democratic sentiment later in life.

Posted by: austincomment at March 5, 2004 11:01 PM

There is an interesting double standard with Kerry & Perry. The media pounced on rumors about Kerry's marital infidelity. Kerry's denial alone was not sufficient to quell the story; they were not dispelled until the supposed paramour herself publically denied them.

With Perry, the mainstream media would not touch the story with a ten foot pole. Then, only upon Perry's request, did a mainstream paper report on it. Also, the paper mentioned none of the details of the alleged affair and "cleared" Perry upon his denial alone without confirming with the alleged paramour.

Why the gross disparity in treatment? I do not suspect that the Media is inherently so overwhelmigly partisan - I think the gross disparity comes from the vindictiveness of the Right. Most left-of-center politicos would get over it and move on. Most right-of-center politicos would take out their revenge on the Press in any way they could, thereby silencing the "Fourth Pillar."

Posted by: WhoMe? at March 6, 2004 12:44 AM

Carl Wigglesworth the libertarian KTSA talk show host mentioned the Perry scandal on his show today but identified the secretary that Anita surprized him with as female.

Posted by: charles blair at March 6, 2004 01:15 AM

HAAA that is great . . . and extremely sad.

Posted by: Melissa at March 6, 2004 02:30 AM

Sigh... you guys at Burnt Orange Report are going to have to learn that there is such a thing as bad publicity. You might get on a few more blogrolls as a result of this, but to most people now you're "that blog that publishes baseless rumours about Republican politicians and otherwise little substantiative information". Looking at the entries from the last three weeks, that's not a big exaggeration. Publishing the rumour the first time may have been defensible if not a bit dodgy, but there have been several entries about them now, and it's disingenuous to claim that BOR has acted responsibly simply because there's a disclaimer after each one. Going into the rhetoric books as an example of paralepsis isn't a good thing (and the tu quoques in citing Perry's supposed misdeeds and what the Drudge Report publishes aren't helping you any...).

Posted by: Jonathan Sadow at March 6, 2004 03:09 AM

What's truly outrageous is taking the country to war based on hyped, unsubstantiated rumors.

As far as Perry, me thinks he doth protest too much.

Posted by: Bassfish at March 6, 2004 08:26 AM

Congratulations on getting into law school. I am about to wrap up my second year at South Texas College of Law.

As to the Gov., don't worry about him picking on BOR. It DOES show what 4 guys with an internet account can do. It demonstrates that the public's voice is not silent. Our voice does matter, whether Perry recognizes that or not.

All of you guys do a wonderful job and are an inspiration to the rest of us.


Posted by: Jeffrey Downing at March 6, 2004 08:31 AM

Mr. Vandal,

The irony of the "Closing of the American Mind" is how close-minded Allan Bloom's mind is. He postively hates youth. For examole, how absurd to say that the only classical music anyone under 25 will listen to is Ravel's Bolero because the beat makes them horny.

The book came out when I was in college and everyone of my Professors dismissed it as utter bunk. Alan Bloom is a pessimistic misanthrope.

Contrary to your assertions that young people are idle dolts and mischief makers, the youth has been a key catalyst for so many profound social movements - civil rights, anti-vietnam, and more recently it was students around the world who started the boycott of South Africa that spread like wildfire and eventually lead to the end of apartheid.

We should thank the Youth and not scold them. They still have the courage to dream.

As far as an excuse to cut higher education funding, I am sure you and your ilk will find another raison du jour to price education out of the middle classes' reach. BOA is not funded with tax dollars or university dollars at all, and a student can define oart of his personhood / partake some activities apart from university life. What a leap of logic to assume that since the authors of BOA are students, higher education must be the culprit. They are also christian, does that castigate religion too? Of course not.

As far as the name calling of toothless gossip spreading maidens, the mysogny of the comment aside, it is truly the pot calling the kettle black.

There is a key distinction though. The point of disgust for the average joe is not whether a public official is adulterous - that is a matter for his family and inner core of friends. As one who does not personally know the politician, the average joe has no concern with his private life, and such acts do not affect his abilities as a policy maker. What is disgusting is the hypocrisy - to act holier than though and institute "family value" policies that, in part, relegate several citizens to second class citizens, then go off and boink the intern (like Newt Ginrgich) or the married woman (Henry Hyde) or whomever else (Bob Livingston).

Posted by: WhoMe? at March 6, 2004 09:08 AM

Allan Bloom, aside from being a pessimistic misanthrope, was gay, by the way. And there's nothing wrong with that, and that's not a rumor. See the following Andrew Sullivan article.


That really has nothing to do with the conversation, but, since his name came up...

Posted by: nospam at March 6, 2004 09:49 AM

I am not going to respond to people who are too cowardly to put down their own name or e-mail address. If you want to discuss, come out of the woodwork. Or is that something they don't teach in college anymore? Stand up and speak. Do not hide and throw mud and gossip. You are only examplifying what Allan Bloom was saying. The American Mind has Closed.

Posted by: Ricky Vandal at March 6, 2004 12:23 PM

What a cop out. Throw down your toys and leave the school yard? Does it matter who the messenger is? What matters is the message.

Posted by: WhoMe? at March 6, 2004 02:48 PM

Sorry, as a rule I don't leave my email address out on the internet for the world to see. Too many spammers and freaks out there, thanks.

In any event, the lack of an email address on my comment doesn't undermine my point, which is merely to point out that Allan Bloom, a person that many social conservatives like to cite as an authority on various issues, didn't exactly live a life that would be embraced by that crowd. It's a little curious that social conservatives love to cite him but never seem to want to acknowledge some facts about his life and death that don't fit the party line. I don't think those facts undermine his opinions necessarily, but they do draw into question his choice of political alliances (though, of course, he can't be blamed for whoever wants to claim him posthumously).

Sorry if mentioning some facts troubles you. Feel free to look it up and try and disprove me, but you won't be able to.